Monday, June 20, 2011

John Bunyan's Ordo Salutis

Over at the Resurgence blog, someone posted a copy of John Bunyan's detailed flow-chart style Ordo Salutis. While a little hard to decipher ( a larger version) and written in an older english style, it's detail is fascinating, relating many of the doctrines of grace personally to the reader.  This reflects Bunyan's wider concern seen in the Pilgrim's Progress to place the believer correctly within his or her spiritual journey.


However, the diagram is a somewhat unwieldy and wordy.  I'm not against written Ordo Salutis, for example this 'Plan of Salvation' forms an introductory chapter to the paperback ESV, but like Bunyan's lacks a way of tying all the doctrines of grace together succinctly and visually.

6 comments:

Andrew Bowles said...

'Two ways to live', double predestination style!

I think a visual and personal ordo like yours is a lot better.

The Borg said...

I don't really understand it! Is it meant to be a kind of flowchart? Can you get from the right hand side to the left? Or is that against the whole idea of double predestination?

Alex Smith said...

Looks like he thinks at least half of humanity are irreversibly destined to ECP/T before they are even created :(

Also strangely seems to think God's Grace competes with God's Justice, rather than both being part of the overflowing of the intertrinitarian love.

Luke Isham said...

Andrew,

Thanks!

Shiloh,

I think he intended it as a flow chart and yes I don't like the step by step-ness of it, eliminates repentance as a through theme. ("Double Predestination" is a term that refers to both election and reprobation. )

Alex,

We'll that's the old Lapsarianism debate, check out Wikipedia on that term, there's a very handy chart there. I think I might be Infralapsarianism.

Alex Smith said...

Thanks for educating me on that, particularly interesting to find out there's a range of views within Calvinism on the topic.

If I was a Calvinist, I would be "Infralapsarianism" too.

Am I correct to think that Calvin was a "Supralapsarianism"?

Andrew Bowles said...

The distinction between supra and infra developed post-Calvin. I think any sane person would be infralapsarian, if you had to choose. Interestingly, Barth positioned his own doctrine of election as being 'supralapsarian', but it is different because for him both election and reprobation are achieved in Christ.